Match Thread Pakistan vs New Zealand | 1st Test | Karachi | 26-30 December 2022

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Question is why? Kya Pakistan selectors nay series kay bhaad koi bhaat khi hai haar kay baaray mai? Haar kyo hoi hai aur kis waja say? Misbah kha waqt aghar dekho app, app apnay app kuho woh kyo itnay kaamyaab hoye, us waqt kya tha jo ab nehi hai. Aghar sawaal nehi kuro gay tu kya Faida?

Failure comes to us all but support in failure in Pakistan cricket is rare.
I was assisting Sir Misbah too, I assisted Mohd Waseem, Chief Selector and PCB Chairman, Sir Rameez Raja too... I know the reasons for these defeats... These are just short term defeats, we will get over it, we are gaining over the long term... We are getting to know potential of each players and testing them out to see who should be selected in future... Those who will not perform will automatically be thrown out of the system... Due to public pressure, you cant be in the team if you are not performing for long... Performance of our batsmen is very good, we are lacking in bowling department... Our bowling is consistently conceding huge totals.. We have found a good spinner, Abrar but trick is not to over expose him otherwise he will be worked out.. He bowls flatly, his natural pace is fast just like Kumble and Afridi... But, it becomes easy even for tailenders just to play with a straight bat to fastish leg breaks at times although it is a very effective medium... When you slow it down in the air like Warnie, that's when it gets really difficult... This is what Zahid Mehmood does and we need him at this time... Also, over last decade we are constantly playing left arm spinners, batsmen have gotten used to them... WE need to change things here... We have found a good offspinner in Sajid years after Ajmal was banned... We should use him in next match imo.. We are not lacking in batting here, we are lacking in bowling right now...
 

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Sorry who are you talking about? This is more interesting than the test match lol.
I am talking about Sarfraz... His attitude was that of a policeman, you call policeman tula in urdu... He was basically similar to a Unit Incharge or Sector Incharge of MQM in his mentality... Those who live in Karachi would know what I am talking about...
 
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Angry dude no doubt, can be a bit mouthy. In front of gurray chup ho jata hai PSL mai, dusroo ko bhoot ghaliyaa deyta hai.
He had bad mouthed a South African black cricketer, about which ICC had taken strong notice and he was dropped after that by Former PM, Sir Imran Khan on my special request...
 

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He had bad mouthed a South African black cricketer, about which ICC had taken strong notice and he was dropped after that by Former PM, Sir Imran Khan on my special request...
Not Sarfraz's fan but Pakistan really don't know or aren't very glued up on racism matters.
 

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I was assisting Sir Misbah too, I assisted Mohd Waseem, Chief Selector and PCB Chairman, Sir Rameez Raja too... I know the reasons for these defeats... These are just short term defeats, we will get over it, we are gaining over the long term... We are getting to know potential of each players and testing them out to see who should be selected in future... Those who will not perform will automatically be thrown out of the system... Due to public pressure, you cant be in the team if you are not performing for long... Performance of our batsmen is very good, we are lacking in bowling department... Our bowling is consistently conceding huge totals.. We have found a good spinner, Abrar but trick is not to over expose him otherwise he will be worked out.. He bowls flatly, his natural pace is fast just like Kumble and Afridi... But, it becomes easy even for tailenders just to play with a straight bat to fastish leg breaks at times although it is a very effective medium... When you slow it down in the air like Warnie, that's when it gets really difficult... This is what Zahid Mehmood does and we need him at this time... Also, over last decade we are constantly playing left arm spinners, batsmen have gotten used to them... WE need to change things here... We have found a good offspinner in Sajid years after Ajmal was banned... We should use him in next match imo.. We are not lacking in batting here, we are lacking in bowling right now...
I just highlighted in bold one of your sentences, we cannot succumb to public pressure. We are playing our team, people will say what they wanna say but we have to maintain a level of consistency. Misbah era was successful because we insisted upon having Azhar and Asad as our main stays and look at the success we achieved.

Bad days come to us all but we must back our players even in their dark days which is what Pakistan failed to do.

I agree on Sajid but problem is he can be a touch expensive, right arm spinners right now Mubasir is one that comes to mind.

I'm sorry but Zahid doesn't impress me as much either, I reckon he's a touch too expensive.

I'm not saying you haven't assisted the selectors and chairman but one thing needs to be noted that the amount of debutants in the last series was unacceptable. I hope that Shahid Afridi does something about this test selection and if he is not the full time selector then give it to Shoaib Muhammad (Hanif's son)
 

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I just highlighted in bold one of your sentences, we cannot succumb to public pressure. We are playing our team, people will say what they wanna say but we have to maintain a level of consistency. Misbah era was successful because we insisted upon having Azhar and Asad as our main stays and look at the success we achieved.

Bad days come to us all but we must back our players even in their dark days which is what Pakistan failed to do.

I agree on Sajid but problem is he can be a touch expensive, right arm spinners right now Mubasir is one that comes to mind.

I'm sorry but Zahid doesn't impress me as much either, I reckon he's a touch too expensive.

I'm not saying you haven't assisted the selectors and chairman but one thing needs to be noted that the amount of debutants in the last series was unacceptable. I hope that Shahid Afridi does something about this test selection and if he is not the full time selector then give it to Shoaib Muhammad (Hanif's son)
Batsmen have gotten used to Abrar and Nauman right now... New Zealand would have done analysis on Abrar and Nauman before coming here to face Pakistan, they would have seen videos of test series with England.. And after having played these 2 in 1st test here with NZ posting 600 against them, it's useless to play them in 2nd test too... They got to pick Sajid and Zahid for next test match so there is something new to work with for New Zealand in next test match otherwise another 600 will be on the cards if Abrar, Nauman and Waseem Jr plays, Pakistan needs changes in bowling attack imo...
 
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I just highlighted in bold one of your sentences, we cannot succumb to public pressure. We are playing our team, people will say what they wanna say but we have to maintain a level of consistency. Misbah era was successful because we insisted upon having Azhar and Asad as our main stays and look at the success we achieved.

Bad days come to us all but we must back our players even in their dark days which is what Pakistan failed to do.

I agree on Sajid but problem is he can be a touch expensive, right arm spinners right now Mubasir is one that comes to mind.

I'm sorry but Zahid doesn't impress me as much either, I reckon he's a touch too expensive.

I'm not saying you haven't assisted the selectors and chairman but one thing needs to be noted that the amount of debutants in the last series was unacceptable. I hope that Shahid Afridi does something about this test selection and if he is not the full time selector then give it to Shoaib Muhammad (Hanif's son)
Zahid was expensive against England cus England were playing Baz Ball whereas these New Zealanders are playing absolutely normal cricket..... Zahid can excel against New Zealand imo than England...
 
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I just highlighted in bold one of your sentences, we cannot succumb to public pressure. We are playing our team, people will say what they wanna say but we have to maintain a level of consistency. Misbah era was successful because we insisted upon having Azhar and Asad as our main stays and look at the success we achieved.

Bad days come to us all but we must back our players even in their dark days which is what Pakistan failed to do.

I agree on Sajid but problem is he can be a touch expensive, right arm spinners right now Mubasir is one that comes to mind.

I'm sorry but Zahid doesn't impress me as much either, I reckon he's a touch too expensive.

I'm not saying you haven't assisted the selectors and chairman but one thing needs to be noted that the amount of debutants in the last series was unacceptable. I hope that Shahid Afridi does something about this test selection and if he is not the full time selector then give it to Shoaib Muhammad (Hanif's son)
You are talking about Sir Misbah playing era, i was talking about his stint as Chairman PCB / Head Coach / Chief Selector... Right now, I see these guys as the batting top 6 / 11, this change with performance or lack of it:

  1. Abdullah Shafique
  2. Imam ul Haq
  3. Shan Masood
  4. Babar Azam C
  5. Sarfraz VC
  6. Salman Ali Agha
  7. Faheem Ashraf
  8. Abrar
  9. Zahid Mehmood / Sajid Khan
  10. Hassan Ali
  11. Mir Hamza
 

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Rizwan should replace Shan in next match and keep, Sarfraz play as batter.

and Rizwan should bat at no. 9
 

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Rizwan should replace Shan in next match and keep, Sarfraz play as batter.

and Rizwan should bat at no. 9
Rizwan should open imo just like he does in t20s... This be playing 11:

  1. Rizwan
  2. ImamulHaq
  3. Shan Masood
  4. Babar Azam C
  5. Sarfraz VC
  6. Salman Ali Agha
  7. Faheem Ashraf
  8. Sajid Khan
  9. Zahid Mehmood
  10. Hassan Ali
  11. Mir Hamza
 
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This is so shameful... losing another test at another venue that was once our main fortress
 

AdvShahzad

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Bhai bowling kya kareinge on these pitches..we don’t have two W’s. We should have scored minimum 500.
Bring back Hassan Ali at the very least... Replace Nauman left arm with right arm off spin of Sajid and maybe give Zahid a go in next match atleast to see how he performs against NZ, England was different cus they were playing Baz Ball whereas NZ are playing according to merit... Also, bring back Faheem for that allrounder role so that you have a 5th bowler / 3rd pacer...
 

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Bring back Hassan Ali at the very least... Replace Nauman left arm with right arm off spin of Sajid and maybe give Zahid a go in next match atleast to see how he performs against NZ, England was different cus they were playing Baz Ball whereas NZ are playing according to merit... Also, bring back Faheem for that allrounder role so that you have a 5th bowler / 3rd pacer...
Zahid? LOL. Bhai tu rehnde.
 

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Zahid? LOL. Bhai tu rehde.
This is the exact problem... Pakistanis dont want to try anything new... If you going to play same set of bowlers, you will get another 600 on the board whereas if you try some personnel in the bowling department, it might work for you, worth a try imo...
 

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If something aint working, it's better to give something different a try... If you keep doing what you are doing, then results won't be different... Atleast, NZ will have some new personnel to deal with...
 

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Batting has been consistently getting big scores, but bowling is not responding in the likewise manner for a long time...
 

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This is the exact problem... Pakistanis dont want to try anything new... If you going to play same set of bowlers, you will get another 600 on the board whereas if you try some personnel in the bowling department, it might work for you, worth a try imo...
Zahid was tried. Eng bent him over. And finished his career.
 

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He will bowl it slower in the air just like Danish Kaneria / Shane Warne whereas Abrar is similar to Kumble / Afridi fastish leg breaks... Tailender like Sodhi just puts his bat down straight in the line and it's dead whereas Zahid will manage to flight tailenders out atleast and he will buy wickets of batsmen too with time like Danish...
 

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Babar Stokes thinks he's going to bowl NZ out in 15 overs 🤣

This is just dumb.
 

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Only 2 results possible. The one we would have got by continuing to bat...or NZ win.
 

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Atleast bring Sajid, Hassan Ali, Rizwan and Faheem Ashraf into the team in places of Nauman, Waseem Jr, Abdullah Shafique and Shan Masood...
 

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