PAK The recipe for disaster, Pakistan's current T20 batting lineup is just too pedestrian for an explosive format

[ahmad.rashid]

PCT have almost 3 accumulators in top 4 in shape of Babar Azam, Mohammad Rizwan and Usman Khan. So at the moment it looks more like an accumulator's paradise rather than an explosive unit. Today we wasted more than 12 overs to chase down a miserly target of 91 while many times around the world score more than this sum just in the powerplay. So instead of going with all guns blazing at the start, we are stuck with accumulator specialists.

This silly approach would be too inimical for Pakistan in the upcoming T20 World Cup. So instead of pleasing a few players at top, the management needs to factor in the team's ultimate glory and for that we need to scrap this awful batting line up.

 

[Kaleem]

How is Usman Khan an accumulator? Has a career SR of almost 150 in T20.

Meanwhile in this year's PSL:

 

[ahmad.rashid]

How is Usman Khan an accumulator? Has a career SR of almost 150 in T20.

Meanwhile in this year's PSL:

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Let’s see him in the international level

 

[ahmad.rashid]

How is Usman Khan an accumulator? Has a career SR of almost 150 in T20.

Meanwhile in this year's PSL:

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A lot of players become great players in PSL but stinkers in international

 

[Kaleem]

A lot of players become great players in PSL but stinkers in international

So who should we pick then? Players who do well in the Ugandan Premier League?

 

[ahmad.rashid]

So who should we pick then? Players who do well in the Ugandan Premier League?

We should pick salman Ali Agha experienced and in top notch form

 

[ahmad.rashid]

Or Hassebullah both are exceptional against spin

 

[Shoaibbtt]

We should pick salman Ali Agha experienced and in top notch form

Keep saying this - the guy provides a little part time spin and can provide some very useful runs. I reckon he could be a top notch allrounder similar to that of Shakib Ul Hassan in good time.

 

[Munna]

Keep saying this - the guy provides a little part time spin and can provide some very useful runs. I reckon he could be a top notch allrounder similar to that of Shakib Ul Hassan in good time.

But how can you then accommodate all guys like Ifti, Shadab and Agha together in the same lineup and roles.

We already have Saim, Haris, Babar, Rizwan, Fakhar quarreling for top 4 positions. Agha can only be realistically adjusted somewhere in the lower middle order where it would be more ideal to have someone with the skillset of batting at 150 SR every single time. So I've to argue Agha doesn't really bring more value than Ifti, Azam, Shady, Irfan atm.

 

[ahmad.rashid]

But how can you then accommodate all guys like Ifti, Shadab and Agha together in the same lineup and roles.

We already have Saim, Haris, Babar, Rizwan, Fakhar quarreling for top 4 positions. Agha can only be realistically adjusted somewhere in the lower middle order where it would be more ideal to have someone with the skillset of batting at 150 SR every single time. So I've to argue Agha doesn't really bring more value than Ifti, Azam, Shady, Irfan atm.

In the windies baters who can play spin are going to be key and everyone knows how good Agha is against spin so I would slot him at 4 in place of UK(not built for international quality needs to go to FC) then Shadab irfan ifti then naseem and shaheen and nobody plays two anchors in the top 3 every single team has an aggressive top order expept for Kane Williamson ,Kohli so one of babar and rizwan has to be dropped and since Babar’s the captain rizwan has to be dropped which will happen under kristen if he can bench Kane Williamson in IPL he can surely drop rizwan and M Haris in for Rizwan

 

[ahmad.rashid]

rizwan is a leg side hack, I saw the way he was playing, Any delivery bowled away from his body he has no clue how to play beyond stepping miles beyond the wicket to legside crossbat it.

 

[Shoaibbtt]

But how can you then accommodate all guys like Ifti, Shadab and Agha together in the same lineup and roles.

We already have Saim, Haris, Babar, Rizwan, Fakhar quarreling for top 4 positions. Agha can only be realistically adjusted somewhere in the lower middle order where it would be more ideal to have someone with the skillset of batting at 150 SR every single time. So I've to argue Agha doesn't really bring more value than Ifti, Azam, Shady, Irfan atm.

Truth be told i think he's better than Shadab, the guy has skills and can play a long innings and can equally hit aggressively, whether or not he can take the role as an aggressor remains to be seen but he should at least be part of the squad.

 

[Shoaibbtt]

In the windies baters who can play spin are going to be key and everyone knows how good Agha is against spin so I would slot him at 4 in place of UK(not built for international quality needs to go to FC) then Shadab irfan ifti then naseem and shaheen and nobody plays two anchors in the top 3 every single team has an aggressive top order expept for Kane Williamson ,Kohli so one of babar and rizwan has to be dropped and since Babar’s the captain rizwan has to be dropped which will happen under kristen if he can bench Kane Williamson in IPL he can surely drop rizwan and M Haris in for Rizwan

Here is the thing though do we stay patient with Usman Khan? Guy has only played 2 games and has made a massive sacrifice to join the team.

 

[ahmad.rashid]

Here is the thing though do we stay patient with Usman Khan? Guy has only played 2 games and has made a massive sacrifice to join the team.

I think we should give him some time at least since the things he has done for representing pakistan. ABD had a average of 11 and Highest score of 11 with strike rate of 111 in 18 t20i games but we should be rotating between the two as we don't have much time

 

[Shoaibbtt]

I think we should give him some time at least since the things he has done for representing pakistan. ABD had a average of 11 and Highest score of 11 with strike rate of 111 in 18 t20i games but we should be rotating between the two as we don't have much time

I think now is the time to back players - issue is we don't know how good they are gonna be and we don't give people nearly enough fair chances. You picked Usman now see how best he will fit in, with Rizwan now out this a chance for him to shine with an average NZ team, play yourself in at no.3.

 

[ahmad.rashid]

I think now is the time to back players - issue is we don't know how good they are gonna be and we don't give people nearly enough fair chances. You picked Usman now see how best he will fit in, with Rizwan now out this a chance for him to shine with an average NZ team, play yourself in at no.3.

guess we have to blindly trust Usman that's why we should have played agha in the squad as well and rested the main players so we find out how good the bench is and who can play in that no 4 spot. Babar and rizwan are so selfish and so insecure that if M Haris performs there spot will be gone talk about insecurity. they have ruined so many players like Rohail Nazir, Now M Haris

 

[ahmad.rashid]

ideal squad

1 Saim
2 m Haris
3 Babar
4 Agha/Usman
5 Shadab
6 Irfan
7 Ifti
8 Shaheen
9 Naseem
10 Amir
11 Abrar

bench:
12 Imad
13 Rizwan
14 Agha/Usman
15 Abbas Afridi

reserves
Mehran
Sahibzada
Haseebullah
Zaman

 

[Shoaibbtt]

guess we have to blindly trust Usman that's why we should have played agha in the squad as well and rested the main players so we find out how good the bench is and who can play in that no 4 spot. Babar and rizwan are so selfish and so insecure that if M Haris performs there spot will be gone talk about insecurity. they have ruined so many players like Rohail Nazir, Now M Haris

Problem isn't them so much, the problem is whenever we feel we've got a good squad the players we rely on and back always end up screwing it up leading us back to old ways. This is a perfect chance for young batsmen to take advantage with there being no Milne, Southee, Wagner, Santner, Boult etc.

 

[ahmad.rashid]

Problem isn't them so much, the problem is whenever we feel we've got a good squad the players we rely on and back always end up screwing it up leading us back to old ways. This is a perfect chance for young batsmen to take advantage with there being no Milne, Southee, Wagner, Santner, Boult etc.

this series would've been the perfect grooming ground for youngsters like Mehran, Haris,Arafat minhas and others

 

[Shoaibbtt]

this series would've been the perfect grooming ground for youngsters like Mehran, Haris,Arafat minhas and others

yea but if you got a guy who is such a good player of spin like Chapman then they'll end up getting smashed.

 

[ahmad.rashid]

if we want to win the WC we have to stop playing this timid approach
every single team has an attacking opening duo weather it be Aus or India and the only anchors left in t20 are Kohli and Kane Williamson.We can only slot 1 of Babar and rizwan
we can trust Usman/agha and shadab to hit the spinners since the players who can bat against spin are key in WI

 

[ahmad.rashid]

yea but if you got a guy who is such a good player of spin like Chapman then they'll end up getting smashed.

we should be able to back them whether the performances

 

[Shoaibbtt]

we should be able to back them whether the performances

yea we should in theory but the media are a bunch of jackasses and then hound the selection committee for backing a young squad. I reckon though these next 2 games are gonna be good with youngsters now being given a chance to prove themselves.

 

[ahmad.rashid]

yea we should in theory but the media are a bunch of jackasses and then hound the selection committee for backing a young squad. I reckon though these next 2 games are gonna be good with youngsters now being given a chance to prove themselves.

who is the media to hound the selection committee they should mind their business and report the matches and not start campaigns by this way the best brain in the country Salman butt(if you watch his YouTube channel) was banished from the selection committee

 

[Shoaibbtt]

who is the media to hound the selection committee they should mind their business and report the matches and not start campaigns by this way the best brain in the country Salman butt(if you watch his YouTube channel) was banished from the selection committee

Salman "that money was from an ice cream shop i promoted" Butt doesn't deserve any chances no matter how good his knowledge of cricket is, that POS single handedly ruined what could've been the best bowling attack today.

The media are like that and once a player fails they'll be bellowing for the selection of the likes of Malik again.